Birds of a Feather, Chapter 5 by treborkat

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Birds of a Feather, Chapter 5 (all hooked up)Kathy and I had just witnessed the most amazing sight either of us had ever seen. I had always known what a hat trick was in hockey, now I knew what it was sexually. I also knew it took one hell of a woman to pull it off.

Katie was starched out on her back; legs spread apart, arms starched out on either side of her body. She was still breathing heavy and her whole body glistened with perspiration. Dan, Shawn and Paul were sprawled out near her, not doing much better.

Kathy was beside me rubbing her mound with one hand and squeezing her tits with the other. Cindy looked at Kathy and laughed, “What the hell’s wrong with you Hot Stuff? You’re squirming like a worm on a hot stove.”

Kathy continued playing with herself, “That was by far the hottest thing I’ve ever seen. It’s got me so turned on I feel like my whole bodies on fire..” Beth asks, “Does this mean you’re ready to try a hat trick?” Kathy laughed, “Hell no, I don’t think I’m tough enough for that yet but I hope I get a chance to work on it.”

Cindy asks, “How’re you doing Mushroom, do you feel like a little action.” “Honey, all this activity’s got me so turned on I feel like I’m about one stroke away from shooting my load.”

Cindy picked up the two bottles of lube and moved over toward Kathy and me. Beth was close behind with a mischievous smile on her face. Cindy told us, “Get on all fours and move over beside each other. Beth and I are gonna grease you up and get your shit hole opened up a little.”

We were both a little nervous but followed Cindy’s instructions. I looked back over my shoulder and watched as Beth pulled Kathy’s ass cheeks apart. Cindy squeezed a large amount of lube down the crack of Kathy’s ass. She then spread the lube over Kathy‘s little rosebud, while coating her fingers at the same time. She ask Kathy, “How about it Hot Stuff, are you ready for a hard dick up your ass?”

I could tell Kathy was very nervous, the truth is, we both were. Kathy told Cindy, “As hot as I am right now I think I’m willing to try anything short of the hat trick.”

Beth had moved over behind me, pulled on one cheek to expose my asshole even better. I could feel the cool of the lube as in ran down the crack of my ass.

Beth used her hand to spread the lube. I jumped a little as she pushed a finger just inside, twisting and turning it a little to coat my passage better.

I heard Kathy’s low moan and assumed Cindy had a finger up her ass by now. I heard Cindy tell Kathy, “Try to relax Homey; we’re going to go for the big time.”

Kathy went from a moan to a grown, “AAAAHHHHHH, you’re splitting my ass wide open.” Cindy asks if she should stop. “HELL NNNOOOO, FUCK MY ASS GOOD YOU BITCH, OPEN ME UP SO I CAN GET THAT MUSHROOM HEAD UP MY ASS!!!”

Hearing Kathy shouting obscenities at Cindy only turned me on more. I pushed back against Beth’s finger until it was knuckle deep in my ass. She didn’t move it in and out; instead, she was moving it around in a circle, stretching my asshole as she did so.

Finally, she pulled the finger out, and almost imminently, she pushed three well-lubed fingers against my sphincter. I relaxed as much as I could but I was still very tense.

Beth told me to push down as if I was trying to shit. I did as instructed as she pushed harder and I felt her fingers push past the tight muscle and into my asshole

.It felt like she was splitting my asshole wide open. Once she was all the way in, she just held her fingers still and told me to try to relax.

While trying to adjust to Beth’s fingers in my ass I glanced over at Kathy. She was lying with her head and shoulders on the blanket. She had both her hands on the cheeks of her ass, pulling them as wide apart as she could. Cindy was fucking three fingers in and out of her ass at jackhammer pace.

Beth started finger fucking my ass. The pain and discomfort was fading as the pleasure increased. She suddenly pulled her fingers out and quickly replaced them with her tongue.. I pushed back, wanting to get her probing tongue as deep as I could up my shitter.

Just as I was getting in rhythm with Beth’s tongue Cindy called out, “OK everyone, here’s what I would suggest. I lie down and put a couple of pillows under my ass. Kathy does a 69 position with me. Frank slides that big mushroom head up Kathy‘s asshole. Then Beth can work on getting Paul and Dan hard again. Paul will fuck Frank‘s shitter while Dan takes my ass. Shawn and Katie will be free to do as they please.”

We were all looking at each other while Cindy was talking. No one spoke for a couple seconds. Then Katie said, “All that sounds great to me but I would love to help Beth get the guy‘s hard.

I looked over at Kathy to see her smiling and nodding her head. I thought, “What the fuck, I‘ve come this far, no need to chicken out now.

Cindy lay on her back on the carpet. Shawn and Dan helped her position the pillows under her, raising her ass off the floor.

Kathy moved over and straddled her in a 69 position as Dan cover her ass and his cock with the lube.

Beth poured some lube in her palm then used it to cover both hands. She moved over a took Dan‘s semi erect cock in one hand then used her other hand to massage his asshole.

Katie was still stretched out on the floor when Paul moved over to her. She opened her mouth and Paul plunged his semi erect cock in until his pubic hair was pushing against her lips. I was still amazed at how easy Katie could deep throat a cock.

I slowly crawled on hand and knees up behind Kathy as I watched the other activity going on around the room. When I turned my face toward Kathy, I was staring straight at her ass. With her legs spread out over Cindy’s head, her little rosebud was exposed and still gaper open from Cindy’s finger invasion.

For a moment, I just stared at the inviting hole glistening with the thick coat of lube and puckered out as if it was just waiting to be kiss. I smiled to myself then plunged my face between her ass cheeks and French kissed her asshole.

I was able to slip my tongue past her sphincter and slightly into her anal passage. I could hear her muffed moans as I moved my tongue in and out.

Beth patted me on the back and told me, “Mushroom, I know you’re having fun sucking her asshole but we do need to move on.”

I reluctantly pulled my tongue out of Kathy’s asshole and set back on my heels. My cock was aligned only inches from her virgin ass.

I looked to see Dan behind Cindy. He was smiling as he looking back at me. He had his hands on the cheeks of her ass while he slowly slid his cock in and out of Cindy’s asshole.

Beth had moved up beside me. She used her hand to blend the oozing pre-cum from my cock with the lube that covered my rigid shaft.

I noticed Paul slowly stroking more lube in his cock as he moved behind me. Cindy reached around Kathy’s hips and pulled her ass cheeks apart. Beth only used her thumb and index finger to guide my cock toward Kathy’s slick shit hole.

I felt Paul’s hands on my hips, pushing me forward. Kathy jumped a little and I heard a muffled intake of her breath as our flesh made contact.

I met with more resistance than I has expected as I pushed forward. I pushed a little harder and my cock head finally slipped past her tight sphincter. Kathy cried out as I slipped in. I stopped, wondering if I should pull out.

I didn’t have to wonder long. Kathy shouted, “DAMN IT, DON’T YOU STOP NOW! PUSH THAT COCK STICK UP MY ASS!!”

I took hold of her hips and started pushing again. Damn she was tight, it was causing me some pain as I went deeper and I knew it had to be tough for Kathy.

When I had my cock a little over half way in I stopped for a second. Beth had moved up and was rubbing her hand up and down Kathy’s back telling her, “Try to relax Baby. It will only get better.”

I felt Kathy relax a little and I started pushing again until my short pubic hair was pressed against the cheeks of her ass. I held it there for a short time then started moving in and out just a little.

I would pull out a little more and pushed back a little harder each time. Just as I was getting a little rhythm, I noticed Beth moving behind me. She pushed on my shoulders, me causing me to lean over Kathy’s back a little.

I felt her soft hand pulling my ass cheeks apart. I pushed into Kathy and just stayed there until I felt Paul’s cock push against my sphincter. I took a deep breath and told him, ’I’m as ready as I’ll ever be. Go for it.”

When he started pushing his cock up my ass, it was slow and steady but he didn’t stop until he was ball beep in my gut. My ass felt like it was on fire and I thought he was going to split me wide open. He made a few short, quick strokes, then pulled about half way out and stopped.

Beth leaned over, kissed me on the cheek then said, “You remember how Katie worked with Dan and Shawn. You need to try to do that with Kathy and Paul, just move your hips back and forth.”

I smiled as I thought, “Easier said than done but I’ll sure try. Kathy had managed to relax a little and it was a little easier pulling my cock out of her ass. Only problem was, when I pulled out of her ass Paul’s cock was sliding into mine.

I made up my mind, I had made it this far and I was not about to stop now. I started driving my cock into Kathy then jamming my ass into Paul’s cock. About every third time, I would fuck into Kathy’s ass Cindy would move her head back and lick my balls.

I was starting to experience more pleasure than pain in my ass; I assumed it was due to my asshole stretching more and Paul’s pre-cum making him even slicker.

Cindy had pushed a couple of fingers up Kathy’s pussy and was moving in rhythm with my cock’s movement.

Paul was starting to hit a spot (I assume was my prostate) that made me feel like I was going to shoot my load. It makes me drive harder into Kathy’s tight ass. Her gowns of pain had already turned to sighs and moans of pleasure.

I looked up in time to see Shawn lay on his back behind Dan. Beth saw me looking, leaned over, and whispered in my ear, “Shawn’s going to lick and suck on Dan’s balls while he’s fucking Cindy’s ass. Then she moved down and started sucking my nipples.

I was swearing, getting dizzy and uttering sounds I didn’t know I was capable of. My whole body was tingling as Beth bit down on my nipples from time to time.

I could hear Paul grunting and gowning as I fucked back and forth on his cock. I pushed into Kathy and Paul pushed into me at the same time. I felt his hot cum as it shot into my bowl.

I was trying to move back and he was pushing forward and we got completely out of sync but I managed to move enough to start pumping my cum into Kathy. She let out a loud continuous moan as she reached one long, continuous orgasm .

I felt Paul’s cock start to soften as his slipper out of my ass and fell back on the blanket. Beth imminently moved over to Paul, licking and sucking on his cum soaked cock..

Katie moved over, took me by the hips and pulled me back, causing my cock to ship out of Kathy’s ass. Katie grabbed a hand full of my hair, pulled my head down to Kathy’s ass, and told me, “Suck her ass you cum sucking pervert. You put it in there now and you suck the cum out of her ass.

As I pulled Kathy’s cheeks apart, I could see a small line of cum running out of her hole. I licked it up then cover her little pucker with my mouth. Katie was behind me when she told Kathy to push down as if she was trying to shit.

I could feel Kathy push down and a large stream of cum shot out into my mouth. I swallowed then started sucking the remaining cum, pushing my tongue into her asshole from time to time.

Just as I was sucking the last of the cum out of Kathy’s ass I felt Katie’s mouth cover my asshole. I pushed and I could feel Paul’s cum running out of my ass and into Katie’s mouth. She finished by licking around my balls and up the crack of my ass.

While all this was going on with us, Dan, Cindy and Shawn was busy attending to each a few feet away. We all collapsed on the blankets trying to catch out breath. Kathy cuddled up next to me and laid her head on my shoulder. Katie cuddles up behind her and wrapped her arm around Kathy, placing her hand on her left breast.

I didn’t realize I had dozed off until I heard Kathy giggling. I lifted my head to see Katie kissing Kathy softly on the lips. Then she leaned over Kathy, kissed me, and whispered, “We gotta get ready to go Sweaty.

We made out way to the bathroom and took turns giving each other showers then dried and brushed up everything until we were all squeaky clean. Kathy and I slipped on a pair of shots and a top while the others dressed and gathered up their other items.

We did our hugs and kisses in the foyer then walked them to their cars. We all exchanged public goodbyes out side and I think we were all somewhat sad that the weekend was ending.

As soon as we walked back in the house, Kathy asks if I would be upset if she pulled her clothes off. I laughed and told her she could stay naked when we were home if she wanted. We walked into the den and we both stripped. I set on the couch and Kathy curled up beside me.

I turn the TV on and found the station with the local news. We were both watching the TV when I felt a drop of moisture on my shoulder. I pushed Kathy back and looked to see big tears rolling down her cheeks. “Baby, what’s the problem, why are you crying? She looked at me, smiled and said, “Frank, I’m so happy and feel so lucky I’m just afraid something’s going to go wrong

I took time to think about what she had said. I wanted to be sure of my reply. “Kathy, I can’t tell you there want be problems. I can’t even tell you that we aren’t gonna have trouble with out asshole spouses. You know as well as I do, everyone has good days and bad days. The only thing I can tell you for sure. Unless you leave me, we will be together for the rest of our lives.

Kathy asks, “You know what I did with the other people this weekend. Tomorrow, the next day or some time in the future is that going to upset you and you hate me for it“

“What did you do that I didn‘t do? We both fulfilled some of our fantasies and given the chance, as long as you were there and willing, I would do it all again.”

Kathy started smiling and said, “Two things I have to tell you. First, your ass is stuck with me for the rest of your life. Second, can we please go to bed, I’m totally wiped out and we have to get up a little early tomorrow morning.

I took Kathy by the hand and lead her to the bedroom. She lay down and I spooned behind her with my arm around her, holding her right breast. We were both sound asleep in a couple of minutes.

Next morning we were both up before the alarm went off. It felt good to have someone there to share breakfast with me. We showered, brushed, dressed and were on our way to the plant.

We arrived about half and hour earlie.. We went straight to the office and I was surprised to find Lorie, Mr. Horton’s personal assistant was already there.

We exchanged greetings and she told me Mr. Horton was already in the office, waiting for me. Kathy took a seat and I tapped on the door then walked in.

Mr. Horton comes around the desk, we shook hands and he motioned for me to have a seat. A million thoughts were rushing through my mind, wondering why I was there.

Mr. .Horton set back down behind his desk. He looked over some papers on his desk for a few seconds. Finally he started talking, “Frank, what I’m about to talk with you about needs to stay between us for the time being. You already know the history of my company and what it has allowed me to do for me and my family. Now, what I need to know from you, do you still like your job and are you happy working here?”

The question surprised me but I had no problem answering with an astounding YES. “Good, so can you tell me what’s going on with you? For the past few months you seem to be under a lot of pressure and not happy with your job. Can you tell me what’s going on?”

I thought for just a few seconds then explained everything that was going up to but not including recent developments between Kathy and me. I decided to hold off on that until I found where this was leading.

He asks if I thought I was in a position to handle more responsibility. I assured him I was. Again, he seems to be taking time to get his thoughts together. Then he told me he had been talking to the owner of a large company similar to ours. They had made him an offer that would allow him to retire and leave the company as well off or better than it was now.

He told me Bud, his General Manager, would be retiring about the same time. The new company would only be sending in someone to replace him and all the other promotions would be from within the present company.

He asks if I thought I could handle a promotion from line manager to shift manager. He told me there would be some other movement also. He explained all the other moves he had in mind and it included Kathy and Cindy both getting promotions.

I thought this would be the time to tell him about Kathy and me before he made any final decisions. I told him I needed to share some very personal information with him. I went to the door and ask Kathy to come in the office.

Mr. Horton had a very confused look on his face as the two of come in and set down. I told him the things we had just talk about would remain between the two of us, no matter what he decided after I filled him in on the latest developments.

I explained to him that Kathy and I had only been friends or what we called work buddies until this past weekend. That’s when things just seem to happen between us and it was our intention to live together until we got our divorce then we’re getting married.

Mr. Horton showed no reaction to what I had told him so far, so I continued. I assured him no matter what happened in our private lives, it wouldn’t affect our job performance. While I was talking, Kathy was nodding her agreement.

When I stopped talking Mr. Horton gave a little laugh, shaking his head from side to side, he simply said, “Maggie.” Now I was confused, I knew Maggie was his wife but I had no idea what he was talking about now.

He must have seen the confused look on both our faces. He said, “You know my wife Maggie and how honest but crude she can be at times. Back in the spring, at our company picnic Maggie noticed the two of you setting across from each other at a table. You were just talking, laughing and seem to be enjoying yourselves. Using her very words, life can be so fucked up sometime. Just look at those two. They are both married to a couple of assholes and they look so good and so hot together. It’s a real shame they’re not with each other.”

We all laughed and I think Kathy and I both were a little relieved. He told us he appreciated us being honest and up front with him. Then he asks Kathy if she were offered a promotion sometime in the future, would she be willing to take it. She assured him she would.

We all stood and Kathy and I started to leave the office. Mr. Horton told us, “Okay, we’re through with our business talk, now let me tell you, I’m gonna call Maggie and tell her about you two.. Don’t be surprised if you two get and invitation for dinner. I told him we would be honored.

As Kathy and I walked around to the plant entrance, she asks if I could talk about anything Mr. Horton and I had discussed. I told her, “Not really as the present time but I can tell you it was all good.

Kathy waved at Beth and Cindy as she walked through to the next building where she worked now. I turned and walked down the aisle toward my office. Several of the workers spoke as I passed. I saw Beth talking to another one of the workers. When I got closer, she looked at me and smiled, “Morning Frank, We’re ready to kick ass.”

As I approached Cindy, she gave me her usual high five, “Gonna be an awesome day Big Boss Man.” She loves to tease me about my promotion to line supervisor. I thought, “Great, everything is going as usual,”

As I open the door to go into the office area, I glanced across to the next aisle. Everyone was busy getting ready to start work except Allison Moore. She was looking straight at me with a big Cheshire cat grin then gives me big thumbs up. I smiled back and walked on to my office, wondering why she was so happy.

The morning went fast, as Cindy had said, it was an awesome day. I called the auto repair shop about the middle of the morning. They told me Kathy’s car would be ready by the end of the day.

I met Kathy in the cafeteria and we had lunch with Cindy and Beth. We talked about many different things but nothing at all about the past weekend.

I saw Allison coming through the line and ask the girls if they might know why she would be giving me the big grim. Cindy and Beth both looked at me then each other. Cindy said, “We can talk later but there is nothing to worry about.

The afternoon went just as well; I had everything wrapped up and ready to go at 5 PM sharp. I got to the parking lot before Kathy. Cindy and Beth saw me waiting and walked over. I looked at them with a little questing smile. Both were giving me a big smile, they knew what I had on my mind. Cindy told me to wait until Kathy got there.

I was a little surprised when Kathy walked up, put her arms around my neck and give me a big kiss. Beth and Cindy cheered her on as I could feel myself blushing.

When Kathy broke the kiss I told Cindy, “Okay Girlfriend, give it up, what’s the deal with Allison.” Cindy said, “First, let me tell you, I talked with Allison at last break and she knows we’re talking to you. Sunday morning she and her husband Brad went by your house on the way to visit her Mom. They saw our car as well as Dan’s car parked in your drive and was fairly sure they knew what was going on.”

Kathy and I were a little shocked and I ask, “Why the hell would they think anything was going on?” Beth and Cindy looked at each other for a second then Beth said, “Because they’re part of our group.” “Your group, what are you talking about?” Kathy inhaled and put her hand over her mouth, ’Oh Holy Shit, Allison and Brad, you gotta be kidding.”

The light finally comes on and this Dumb Ass realized what they were talking about. “Let’s see, the four of you, Dan, Katie, Kathy and me, now Allison and Brad. So tell me, who else?” Cindy told us she couldn’t give us names without their permission but there are about six more couples.

I glanced over at Kathy and she had a look of disbelief. Cindy told us to just be cool, give it some time and if we wanted to get more involved, she could make it happen. We agreed, everyone hugged and Kathy and I headed to the repair shop

We were both very quite for several blocks. I was thinking about what Beth and Cindy had told us and I assumed Kathy was doing the same. Then she looked at me and asks, “Frank, do you like fucking me in the ass?” I couldn’t help but laugh at the question then told her, “Kathy, I love you and I love sex with you, including fucking you in the ass. Why do you ask?”

Kathy smiled as she said, “Because I like it, not all the time, but I really do like it. How about you, do you like it up your ass?”

I knew I needed to be very honest with her, “Yes I do Honey, and it is a very sensitive area and a real turn on for me.” She took my hand in hers, pulled it to her lips and kissed it softly. “Loving you makes me feel so good.” I squeezed her hand, knowing I didn’t have to say anything, she already knew.

When we arrived at the shop, I was very impressed with the shop and the guys working there so I decided to leave my car for service and a tune up.

As we pulled away from the shop on Kathy’s car, she asks what I had in mind for dinner. I told her I would be fine with take-out. She was smiling when she ask if the pizza place on 10th. Street would be okay with me. I told her that would be fine.

When she turned the corner onto 10th, I started laughing, “You sneaky little shit. The toy store’s in the same mall.” Kathy looked like a kid at Christmas. “You have all you need to take of my ass but I need some help to take care of yours.”

We both laughed as she parked about half way between the toy store and pizza shop. We headed to the toy store first. When we walked in, I noticed that the same young woman was working. There were two guys, about mid twenties, talking with her. She was polite but seemed a little irritated with them.

We went to the back corner just looking at things in general. Finely, the two guys left and the sales clerk walked back to where we were. “Hello you two, good to see you again.” We laughed and told her we were about as dumb as we were before.” She asks if we had tried everything we bought the first time.

I think we both blushed a little at the young women bluntness but we told her we had enjoyed everything. “Well, the other couple’s not here this time, they’re from out of town and only come by when they’re in town. My name is Amie and I’ll be happy to help you any way I can.”

We introduced ourselves as Kathy walked over by the display of strap-on harnesses and incerts. Amie said, “Kathy, Frank looks like he could do well without a strap-on so I assume you’re looking for one to use on him and other people.”

Kathy and I were blushing a bright red. Amie laughed as she appoliged for being so blunt. “Please forgive me, sometimes I meet customers that I like and very comfodable with and I tend to forget myself. I’m so sorry if I embarrassed you.”

I explained that it wasn’t a problem, that all of this was still very new to us but was quite excitening and a real turn on for both of us. Amie had given us wicked little smile and asks, “Frank, are you saying I turn you on?”

Now I was beet red and Kathy was laughing her ass off. “Cut this shit out you two, remember, we come in here to shop. “And so you did” Amie said, suggesting we start with the harness then look at the different incerts to go in it.

Amie told us it was closing time and she needed to lock the front door. She selected three different harnesses and laid them out for us to look over before she headed to the fromt of the store.

We were discussing the differences in the harnesses when Amie return. She told us she liked the one with the wide, padded nilon straps. A thought run through my mind and I started smiling. Kathy and Amie both noticed and Kathy ask, “What’s so funny, share it with us and we can smile too.

I ask Amie,”How do you know you like this one better, have you tried it?” Now it was Amie’s turn to blush. Kathy started smiling then and ask, “Okay Amie, tell us, how do you know, have you tried it?”

Amie was still blushing as she nodded her head. Kathy asks her if she would tell us about it, maybe we could get a few pointers. The phone rang causing all three of us to jump.

Amie answered and told us it was her Mom. She talked with her Mom confirming she would meet them at the pizza shop a couple doors down. Then she walked away from us and started talking very softly. We couldn’t hear what she was saying but we did hear her giggle a couple of times.

When she hung up the phone, she walked back over the where we were standing. I noticed she had a very mischesive smile on her face. She picked up the harness, motioned for us to follow her as she walked over to the dildo display. She selected four different dildos’ that would work with the harness and placed them on a small table at the end of the display.

Amie was watching us as we looked at the toys. I picked up one that was only about an inch around but it was about 9 to 10 inches long. I ask, “Wow, what would you use this one for?” When I look up Amie was looking at Kathy and me. She looked very serious when she asks, “How good are you two at keeping secrets.”

We had no idea where this was heading but I did know how decreet Kathy and I were and told Amie as much. Amie took the toy from me, looked at it then back at us. Kathy and I were not expecting what come next. Amie said, “Mom, my sister and I love this on up our ass if Dad is fucking our pussy and he likes it up his ass.”

I heard Kathy gasp and I knew I was standing there with my mouth hanging open. Amie smiled and ask if we sould like to hear more. Kathy quickly responed, “HELL YES”

Amie picked up another toy. It was bigger around but not quite as long. “We like to use this one in our pussy or ass when it is just us girls playing. We also used one like this to learn how to deep throat Dad‘s cock.” The next one was a double dildo with one smaller than the other was. “Kathy, you‘ll like this one, the small one can go in the ass and the big one in the pussy.”

The last one was an unusual design. It had one dildo the same size as the small one on the double but the top was a short section to hold it in the harness but open in the middle. Amie used a sanitized wipe to clean the toy then fitted it into her harness. “This is our family favroite, Frank, your cock would go through the hole and you can put the dildo over the tip or the bottom, depending on Kathy’s position. That way you can fuck her ass and pussy at the same time.”

Amie was holding the harness up in front of me as though she was waiting for me to take it. I looked up at her and Kathy, both were smiling at me. “You’re joking, RIGHT?” Kathy stepped over beside me, reached out and caressed my cock through my pants.”

“Can I have a feel?” Amie asks.. Kathy took her hand and placed on my rock hard cock, holding her hand as she moved up and down the leangth of my cock.

I was sure there were good things ahead but I was not sure I was prepared for how good it would be.